In this episode the boys need to f***ing talk to Douglas Squirrel and Jeffrey Fredrick about the benefits of ‘agile conversations’ – by changing how you approach conversations in your business you change your culture. We can find that our habits of conversation are deeply ingrained, and powerful cognitive biases work against any change. The good news as Squirrel and Frederick explain is that with disciplined practice, you can improve your conversations the way you’d improve your tennis game or your piano playing. 

Douglas runs a highly engaged community called the Squirrel Squadron, Douglas coaches executives in all disciplines — COOs, CTOs, CEOs, and many more — to help them to change culture through better conversations and productive conflict. 

Jeffrey is Vice President of Engineering at ION Analytics and an internationally recognized expert in software development and has over twenty-five years’ experience covering both sides of the business/technology divide. An early adopter of XP and Agile practices, Jeffrey has been a conference speaker in the US, Europe, India and Japan and is co-organiser of the Continuous Integration and Testing Conference (CITCON).

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